i din't see 'em, sage rider--what're they callin' 'em? all i found was fakes and reproductions. hey thar, pale rug, you gonna make it to th' whidby island 'voo? i c'd pack it along, ef th' ferry ain't too heavily loaded. utherwise, it'll hafta be 7 rivers. i ain't had thet big'n out fer a spell; given th' size o' th' buffler i bin killin' lately, my patch knife's bin sufficient! mind yer topknot! windy

Hey Winded One, This child won't be goin' to Whidbey Island, I just ain't up to the swim... And 7 Rivers is not on my list. Maybe your skinny carcass will be found at Fall Harvest. That would be good doin's for me. Shoot sharp, Mike

Hi Mike,good info on hb knife,I will be in contact with Mr. hazuka in the near future.
I will have to be careful about reading your threads, every time I do it seems to cost me money! ,
take care!

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Hi Windy, I looked again and they have been sold. Price was up around $800 plus. I will keep my eye out.....Jim

"Aim small, miss small"

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I will have to be careful about reading your threads, every time I do it seems to cost me money!

Hey Sharps, Let me admit that I have no sympathy for you. This time, however, the real blame must go to Matt Denison at North Star West. He's the hombre who brought the Hudson Bay Camp Knife to my attention. It's all his fault! Besides, don't you think that a HB Camp Knife would be a good partner for an HB marked Northwest Gun? That's where I'm headed. And, just to be sure of things, Dean spells his name Hazuka, with an "H." I will get one of those, a "knife with eyes." Shoot sharp, Mike

Mike,my fingers ran instead of walked, I corrected the spelling of Mr.Hazuka,I apologize for the error.And yes it sure would make a good partner for nw gun. ah ha,should have known Matt was behind it! But then again I never get no sympathy anyway.Yep I'm hot on the trail for "the knife with eyes" also.8 in. blade of course!

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Yep I'm hot on the trail for "the knife with eyes" also

Bravo! Shoot sharp, Mike

I like the looks of those but I think I will pass, with a short saber, dirk, butcher, english trade knife tucked in my sash or hanging fronm a shoulder strap plus a small utility blade on the strap of my hunting bag and a belt axe hung from my haversack and the pole hatched tucked in the back of the sash, if I ever fall down and roll down a hill I will end up in a dozen or so pieces....I think I have enough cutting utensils.,

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I like the looks of those but I think I will pass, with a short saber, dirk, butcher, english trade knife tucked in my sash or hanging fronm a shoulder strap plus a small utility blade on the strap of my hunting bag and a belt axe hung from my haversack and the pole hatched tucked in the back of the sash, if I ever fall down and roll down a hill I will end up in a dozen or so pieces....I think I have enough cutting utensils.,

Now that's funny right there,..I don't care who ya are.....

Ron, I agree.. Whoever heard of having enough cutting utensils???

I have written several articles on the HB Camp Knife. Best source of info is Quarterly Journal of the Museum of the Fur Trade, Vol 13, No 3, Fall 1977. Great first hand accounts by observers of trappers in the north with descriptions of knives and uses.

'Smoke, Welcome to this campfire and please send some of your info on the HB Camp Knife my way. I'd really love to learn more. Shoot sharp's the word, Mike

Thanks for the welcome. Another good source of info is Carl P Russell's book "Firearms, Traps and Tools of the Mountain Men". The HB Knife is a great tool. I carry one of Dennis Miles knives on winter treks. Great for shelter poles, firewood, quartering deer. The knives we think of as the HB Camp Knives are typically the knives from Sheffield cutlers such as Wostenholm & Son or Jukes Coulson. This is a later pattern and is most familiar. Dean Hazuka makes a museum quality replica as does Tim Ridge of Swamp Fox Knives. HB knives were traded from around 1750 to the 1880's so many variations existed. Dennis's knife is less refined and is an example of an earlier knife. There were American made knives as well. Great period tool. I like 'em.

'Smoke, Yes, I have Russell's book. And, I told Dean Hazuka that I want one of his "knives with eyes." Shoot sharp, Mike

'Smoke, How about some leads on the stories you've done about the HB Camp Knives. I'd like to read them. If you want to, send some info on where to find such things, or maybe some text, to me at miken54@aol.com. I'd sure appreciate that. Shoot sharp, Mike

me too, thar, woodsmoke. i'd like to find out a leetle bit more 'bout my jukes coulson. mind yer topknot! windy

Windy, Google, Jukes Coulson Hudson bay knife. The article in the Blacksmith Gazette is real good. Also, Fur Trade Cutlery Sketchbook by Hanson has a good piece on it. Hope you didn't get your knife from ebay. Bunch of fakes were sold. (I got taken and bought one) They sure looked good. Live and learn.

nope, i seen sum o' them thar pakistani wonders--a feller i bought one off of, knowin' it fer whut it wuz, sed he'd "anteek it" fer me ef i wanted him to; might as well have, it ain't wurth a durn as a knife--handle's too clubby! my real jukes coulson is early; has five "eyes" per side, thet're mostly brass, now that th' nickel plating's wore off. TRAPS AND TOOLS has a dee-scripshun uv it, but not a drawing. it's thicker'n t'others i've seen, bein' purt'near 3/8" at th' thickest point. i'll try ta put sum uv my kerleckshun on line, soon's i find sumbuddy willin' ta take th' pictures. thanks fer th' references, and mind yer topknot! windy

I take it that since nobody has mentioned the "Hudson Bay" knife that Track of the Wolf lists that it must not really be the authentic?

Pete, You must mean the Hudson Bay Dagger. I think that's authentic but it's a dag, not a knife. I know, a dag is just a type of knife...
Even so, the Hudson Bay Camp Knife is a specific knife. Take a look at the ones shown in earlier notes on this thread. Keep in touch too. Shoot sharp's the word, Mike