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Greenhorn
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I was thinking if you a long trek and your powder were to get wet what would you take to help you survive? a knife a tomhawk ect. Let me know.
 
Posts: 9 | Registered: 17 July 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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Nothing beats a good, strong utility knife. With it, you can fabricate pretty much anything else you'll need (shelter, weapons, etc.)


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Posts: 313 | Location: Northwestern California | Registered: 05 May 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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I'd have to agree with Pilgrim Larry...a good knife would be a necessity.
But, being it's a trek, I would want some wire for snares and some fish hooks.
I attended a survival/mountaineering school when I was a teenager. The "final" was a one week, 50 mile hike, with just a knife, matches and proper clothing. It was gathering food while traveling which was the hardest. Letting the snares and fish hooks work while I was sleeping would have aided survival immensely. (ok...I did use deadfall traps, but they are time consuming to rig, and conservation of time/energy was important).

Just my opinion from my experience. Will be interesting to see what others think would be needed.
 
Posts: 367 | Location: Clovis, New Mexico | Registered: 21 March 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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How about two pounds of rock-a-hominy with maple sugar? Trekking isn't a "live off the land" scenario unless you choose it to be. Even the long hunters carried "luxavated corn" (parched corn). You'll also need a canteen and something that you can boil water in.

LD


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Posts: 1755 | Location: People's Republic of Maryland | Registered: 10 November 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Hivernant
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I always like to take jerky ,problem is i have it all eat'n two steps into the trek, now corn mush seems like i can hold out a pretty long while for that stuff.taking some food along is the best thing to do .because no matter what weapon you carry it aint helping much ifn you dont see anything to use it on and we all know the times we came home empty handed. RegularJoe
 
Posts: 119 | Location: Pennsylvaina | Registered: 05 July 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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I agree, that corn meal is tasty, at about the end of "day 2". Big Grin

LD


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Posts: 1755 | Location: People's Republic of Maryland | Registered: 10 November 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Greenhorn
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I'd have to say something to boil water or a filter... I know, not PC but I always carry one just in case. You can go a long time without food, some of us longer than others. I could go a real long time! But water you can not. Now if were talking confort that's a different story.

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Posts: 39 | Location: Oakland County Michigan | Registered: 27 March 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Graybeard
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Jon is right water is very important. I have no problem with a water purifier in any kit. With one in your kit you can be sure to drink all the water you need by refilling your canteen without having to stop and boil more. Lets face it we live in the 21st century and no matter how good you are you can never can be 100% PC. We all have family and jobs to return to. The water holes just aren't like they were, with cattle and people and they sure drank their fill of bad water back in the day.Plus there are always 21st century things in our way of thinking. With that said water,making a fire, a sharp object should get you the rest.
 
Posts: 245 | Location: Whitewater, CO. | Registered: 22 June 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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Loyalist Dave,
I agree, trekking isn't necessarily a "live off the land" proposition. But going by Luckylead's question, I assumed he had everything else normally carried...but his powder was wet, so, how to "make meat"?
 
Posts: 367 | Location: Clovis, New Mexico | Registered: 21 March 2005Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Hivernant
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well lets see. when ever i take a long trek i always have both a knife and beltaxe so if my powder got wet and i ran out of food and along way from home i guess i would set some traps if that did;nt work i would be hungrey.unless i could find a creek or river.
 
Posts: 102 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: 23 February 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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I'll agree with snares and fishing equip-it doesn't take much space or weigh much and you can "fish" with droplines or trot lines while attending other matters of survival....some may worry about the legalities of some methods of taking game-however, in my opinion, I'd rather eat illegally taken game than starve/die...


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Posts: 578 | Location: Near the 4Corners..along the Escalante Trail | Registered: 26 April 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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I'd dry the powder by laying it out in the sun protect it from the elements,regrind if necessary using wood/rub it between leather,so it wouldn't explode and keep moving on my treck when it was ready!!!!!!!!!!!Food is the least of my concerns immediately,you can go alot longer without food than you can water.If you drink bad water,bever fever,comes to mind,you are a liability to your party and yourself.Your survival is questionable.Find a water source and the animals will come to it and you,cat tails are a very versitile food source,high in starch and moisture that just might not be polluted and usable material for traps[rodants snakes] and carrying containers.That is when the snare,rabbit stick come into play,you conserve energy and hopefully survive to complete your treck.First:water,ax {does what a knife will do and more},shelter,fire,food.See you up the trail.
 
Posts: 1223 | Location: La Grange,Maine | Registered: 11 February 2007Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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Of course, when talking to the game warden, he or she might not buy the "necessity of survival" explanation to illegal taking of game, since you chose to put yourself in that position--it's not as if your plane crashed in the desert and you were literally in danger of starving...
I believe I'd take some jerky and parched corn along.

SmilerDick


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Posts: 1685 | Location: Helena, Montana | Registered: 10 December 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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Dick! If I was talking to the GAMEWARDEN it would mean I survived and he/she could ticket me for whatever they wanted.If the warden wasn't there to see you take the game just forget to mention it.HAW HAW Goes back to the old saying,"Judged by twelve or carried by six"Rather be setting around the fire and someone ask "How did you do it " rather " Gee! wonder what he could have done different and survived.Sofar all the variations on what we would take/need cover alot of ground but somethings are on most list,water/tools.See you up the trail.
 
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Booshway
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I think, in addition to the few essentials mentioned in previous posts, I'd want to bring Mark Baker. Problem solved!


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Posts: 313 | Location: Northwestern California | Registered: 05 May 2006Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
Booshway
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Crow,
Of course, in a genuine survival situation, you do what you have to do. I was thinking of someone saying, "Hmm, I think I'll go trekking without any food and see if I can survive off the land..."

Dick


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Posts: 1685 | Location: Helena, Montana | Registered: 10 December 2004Reply With QuoteEdit or Delete MessageReport This Post
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Or maybe Euell Gibbons, for the vegetarians among us...

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Graybeard
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A few years ago, I was really into reading Tom Brown's books on survival. I found them really good. After quite a bit of mucking around, I did get to the point where I could go out for a weekend with a knife and a little pot made from a #10 can and still be alive on Monday morning. It was a lot of fun, and sometimes I wonder why I stopped doing it. So, my vote is for a small fixed blade knife and some kind of pot. The pot got used to boil edible plants in, and the knife needed to be small so you don't cut yourself when shelling nuts, which are my number one survival food! Acorns rule, but they taste like *&^%#.
 
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