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Booshway |
What is a good price for a center mark fusil? I found one online for $1895. Of course I am going to lowball for a settling price. What is a fair price? | ||
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Booshway |
Is it my imagination or have prices spiked in the past couple of years? I have noticed on the TOTW site that guns which sold for $700 to $800 a couple of years back now go for $1200 and more. | |||
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Booshway |
I have seen that too. TOTW guns seem to average 2k or more! | |||
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Greenhorn |
Cost of parts have been going up | |||
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Factor |
Well TOTW isn't the best gauge for what a rifle or gun are worth [imho]. Track [again imho] doesn't "vet" the consignment guns all that much. So, there are basic gunbuilding tasks that are poorly done because the builder was more interested in the carving than the basics, and these are sometimes seen on the Track site. So you regularly will find a rifle around $2000 with a poorly done lock mortise. Either the lock plate isn't well fitted into the wood, or most often the wood to the rear of the lock hasn't been properly reduced. A CLEAR mark that the builder used a "pre-shaped" stock, and didn't understand that those stocks are made to be a close fit to one lock, but have extra wood in case the builder chooses to use a different lock. So then IF the builder uses the specified lock..., the lock mortise MUST be adjusted. That's like Rifle Building 101..., and so in my mind if the lock mortise was sloppy, or the wood wasn't adjusted, then that rifle (REGARDLESS of all the fancy carving) should be priced at the cost of the unfinished parts, OR BETTER YET should have been refused by TOTW and the builder should have been told why...so that the builder could correct that piece, or not make the same mistake in the future. Alas, I think a lot of folks have bought rifles and guns from Track when they did't know what to look for, and thus paid WAAAY too much for a rifle that has a value well under what was paid. LD It's not what you know, it's what you can prove | |||
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Booshway |
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Greenhorn |
They're worth the money, I love mine | |||
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Pilgrim |
It's hard to determine a "fair price" or "market value" for some of these guns because there are so few of them that come to market. It's not like a mass produced firearm that sell in the second hand market in high quantities and easy to research past sells. The Centermark fusil de chasse is one of those near, but not quite accurate reproductions. The butt plate extension finial doesn't match any original. The side plate is more appropriate for a fusil fin than a fusil de chasse. As with a lot of reproduction guns, there's too much wood left on the stock. The wood is maple rather than European variety such as walnut like the originals. Even with all the short comings, some people are willing to pay a significant amount for some of these old guns for nostalgic reasons. Another way to look at the value of these guns is to see what it would take to build one today. Track has a fusil de chasse kit that starts at about $875. On top of that, one needs to add the labor cost to put it together. If you outsource it to a professional, it can cost $50 to $100 per hour. Track estimates that a first time builder can assemble and finish in 40 hours. If a professional does it in half that time, it would cost $1,000 to $2,000 in labor. You would have $1,875 to $2,875 in the finished gun. Of course, you could build it yourself and figure a value of $5.00 per hour for your labor at 40 hours and have a gun that cost you $1,075. Just a little food for thought. Phil Meek | |||
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Greenhorn |
here's min e | |||
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Free Trapper |
Nice, Mark | |||
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