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Lostrifle
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Baker rifles, AFAIK, used thin leather patches cut in a cross shape and somehow stuck to the ball. These were then put into the paper cartridges. Seen a picture of this somewhere, but can't remember where.

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Mike R
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I have not tried this, but I once saw an original longrifle with two paper cartridges laying side by side in the "patchbox". My assumption was [and is] that the hunter would load normally the 1st shot with horn powder and lubed, patched ball. Then if fast follow-up shots were needed the paper cartridges would allow quick reloads and be more accurate than the commonly mentioned bare ball loads.
 
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J.D.
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Originally posted by Loyalist Dave:
BRILLIANT JD!

That's very very interesting, especially the images of the paper after it has served as a patch.

You see, there has been a mystery of sorts regarding Jaegers. Did they use a patched ball apart from their cartridges, for they did use cartridges, or did they somehow load a patched ball into the cartridge? NOW it seems it might have been possible for them to use PAPER as the patch. Further, the later British Baker rifle had a very slow twist 1:120, and they may have used paper too. So..., I wonder if I can find out the average depth of rifling in original Jaeger rifles surviving from the 18th century?

I must try paper patched rounds myself!.

LD


I only wish I had come up with the idea of the tapered cartridge. The ones I have used were not tapered, but were loaded, paper wrapped ball, and all, just like the tapered cartridges.

I did not find a fired cartridge, but never really looked for one.

Might have to make a few and see if there is any difference in my old style cartridges and the tapered ones.

As to the Jeagers, I can't say. Chris Immel, aka Stophel, might have the information you are looking for...or know where you might find it.

God bless
 
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